tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6007050355748263232.post5512624391008904012..comments2024-03-14T03:05:48.400-04:00Comments on RunnerDude's Blog: Marathon Training: A Different ApproachRunnerDudehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15209079063314051451noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6007050355748263232.post-90917565201819075832009-07-07T13:34:30.723-04:002009-07-07T13:34:30.723-04:00Hi runnerdude,
I'm a "lurker" from a...Hi runnerdude,<br />I'm a "lurker" from another site, but I've found some really interesting and helpful things on your blog! Love the Core workout exercises!<br />Also, I've never heard of this FIRST training, but it looks promising. I've ran several 1/2's, and two fulls, after taking time off to have my son, I trained for the Gasparilla marathon, but got injured during training (IT bands in both knees) and couldn't run it. Now, my knees are all healed, I'm working on my strength training and I've started training for the Marine Corps marathon coming up in October. What I found most interesting about the FIRST method is that I actually graduated from Furman and never heard of it! Of course, I was NOT a runner in college! <br />Now, I actually use galloway method on my long runs. <br />Anyway, thanks for sharing the info on the FIRST training and keep us posted on your progress!<br />Good luck!<br />Kalani<br /><br />www.jameshayman.blogspot.comKalanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03960888336172679191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6007050355748263232.post-64017658895287160792009-06-01T16:37:22.821-04:002009-06-01T16:37:22.821-04:00Hey Acey! Nah, that wasn't me. I was out there, bu...Hey Acey! Nah, that wasn't me. I was out there, but don't recall that. I did meet someone who has been reading the blog, Julie. She runs with Janes on the Run and she came over and introduced herself and said hi. Funny how small the world is!RunnerDudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15209079063314051451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6007050355748263232.post-27300259862163143762009-06-01T16:02:07.558-04:002009-06-01T16:02:07.558-04:00saturday morning, did you ask a girl with an nc ma...saturday morning, did you ask a girl with an nc marathon hat on if she ran the race? or were you with a guy that did? <br /><br />we gotta get ben back out there...i was going to come run with you guys if he had come.aceyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13450466545317782671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6007050355748263232.post-69723131169608000832009-06-01T08:41:29.683-04:002009-06-01T08:41:29.683-04:00Hey NoMeatAthlete! Good point! I think you always ...Hey NoMeatAthlete! Good point! I think you always have to use any plan as a base and then make modification based on your own needs. Hope we both make it to Boston!!!RunnerDudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15209079063314051451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6007050355748263232.post-45857132689924161442009-06-01T07:21:43.907-04:002009-06-01T07:21:43.907-04:00This is the program (modified) that I am using to ...This is the program (modified) that I am using to qualify for Boston in the fall. I love the idea behind it, but I must say that I got injured (IT band) using this program before, and I'm just recently recovered.<br /><br />The point is to avoid injury by running less. But I found that I really missed the easy runs in between workouts that I had been accustomed to. Somehow I feel like they really help my body get itself back into balance after workouts. This time, I'll do 1-2 of these easy runs instead of the cross-training FIRST recommends.Matt (No Meat Athlete)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06695310559747642457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6007050355748263232.post-87370730084371745712009-05-31T08:49:23.238-04:002009-05-31T08:49:23.238-04:00Hey Dena! (the other Dena, LOL!) Welcome to the bl...Hey Dena! (the other Dena, LOL!) Welcome to the blog!! Yep, I think you can easily adapt FIRST to what you want. I've not done sprint triathlons yet, but hope to one day. I'm running the Hickory Half Marathon in Hickory, NC next weekend. Just found out that miles 4-9 are uphill. Yippee!!!RunnerDudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15209079063314051451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6007050355748263232.post-82793111107149223902009-05-31T05:39:37.292-04:002009-05-31T05:39:37.292-04:00(Not the Dena you're referring to in the post) I'...(Not the Dena you're referring to in the post) I'm training for sprint triathlons this summer but was struggling to figure out how to train for an early fall half marathon at the same time. I will definitely have to check out this book. It sounds like the two training plans are compatible.Denahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13654457333120525840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6007050355748263232.post-6191641530456337252009-05-31T01:54:41.016-04:002009-05-31T01:54:41.016-04:00Hey Robison52! Hey, I know what you mean. I'm a ru...Hey Robison52! Hey, I know what you mean. I'm a runner through and through too, but I'm going to give it a try. Wanting to qualify for Boston. Hoping this method will get me there! Happy running man!RunnerDudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15209079063314051451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6007050355748263232.post-4929005408557004472009-05-31T01:22:05.603-04:002009-05-31T01:22:05.603-04:00I had tried the "Run Less Run Faster" program for ...I had tried the "Run Less Run Faster" program for my training of the 2008 Boston Marathon, but doubt I'll use it again...Why? Because I love to run too much and really don't care for the crosstraining. I'd rather run more as that is my strong suit.robison52https://www.blogger.com/profile/02370199642749822405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6007050355748263232.post-43292796635036097902009-05-30T20:54:45.296-04:002009-05-30T20:54:45.296-04:00Hey Acey! Yep I know Ben and Lucy. both are good g...Hey Acey! Yep I know Ben and Lucy. both are good guys. Well, Lucy's a gal, but you know what I mean. LOL! Yep, ran on the Greenway this morning. Probably passed you and didn't even know it. Next time trip me or something and say Hi! LOL! We run every Saturday morning at 7:30 for an 11-miler. Next Saturday I won't be there though, I'm running the Hickory Half Marathon. Hope to meet you soon!RunnerDudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15209079063314051451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6007050355748263232.post-50623101335704863462009-05-30T20:51:34.461-04:002009-05-30T20:51:34.461-04:00Thanks Jo Lynn!Thanks Jo Lynn!RunnerDudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15209079063314051451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6007050355748263232.post-46798858301815137212009-05-30T20:50:57.332-04:002009-05-30T20:50:57.332-04:00Hey Paul and Beth! Yep, those track workouts are k...Hey Paul and Beth! Yep, those track workouts are killer but they really make a difference. In '07 I was really good about doing a weekly track workout and had some of my best 5K times and it helped my endurance in distance runs. Last yeat I didn't do as much speed work and I could really tell it. So back comes the speed work for '09!RunnerDudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15209079063314051451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6007050355748263232.post-48002290468012252952009-05-30T20:49:18.068-04:002009-05-30T20:49:18.068-04:00Hey Mel! Hope you get that go-ahead soon! I think ...Hey Mel! Hope you get that go-ahead soon! I think this is a good plan for you, but just ease into it. No matter what plan you try you need to come back slowly. You'll be back to running like normal.RunnerDudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15209079063314051451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6007050355748263232.post-85316203971309947492009-05-30T20:26:56.668-04:002009-05-30T20:26:56.668-04:00anyone have any luck finding this in a public libr...anyone have any luck finding this in a public library? <br /><br />thad, i just saw a pic of ben and lucy on your page! ben told me about your blog in the first place but I think I'd forgotten yall knew each other! <br /><br />were you running on the greenway this morning by chance?aceyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13450466545317782671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6007050355748263232.post-75144634193087904052009-05-30T19:10:23.209-04:002009-05-30T19:10:23.209-04:00A fellow blogger is using this book's program. Sh...A fellow blogger is using this book's program. She says the workouts are kicking her butt! Good luck with it. ;)Jo Lynnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06531744273293564813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6007050355748263232.post-38437982383835719772009-05-30T19:03:48.775-04:002009-05-30T19:03:48.775-04:00A nice review, I might look this book up. I'm cert...A nice review, I might look this book up. I'm certainly very time poor, but for some strange reason want to run further. I've started track runs, they're over quicker and hurt more... but i can see the difference already!Paul and Bethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13602855085717929296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6007050355748263232.post-45340493989233208512009-05-30T17:31:08.521-04:002009-05-30T17:31:08.521-04:00once i finally get the go ahead to start running a...once i finally get the go ahead to start running again, this is what I was looking to use for training, since it's apparent that my body doesn't like this 5day/week running. i have no outstanding time goals, and will never be fast enough to qualify for Boston... I'd be happy just to keep my body injury free to continue running... so while I've heard that this plan is tough, I still think my body will appreciate it more. My chiro trained for and successfully completed 4 marathons using this plan :)Mel-2nd Chanceshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15040126521403230005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6007050355748263232.post-45632818295343415592009-05-30T15:21:24.141-04:002009-05-30T15:21:24.141-04:00Hey DP Turtle! Glad to hear you're digging the pro...Hey DP Turtle! Glad to hear you're digging the program! Checked out yor sites. Pretty cool! Look forward to following your progress!RunnerDudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15209079063314051451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6007050355748263232.post-25622809664005428852009-05-30T15:18:43.681-04:002009-05-30T15:18:43.681-04:00Hey Amanda! Chapter 3 in the book is devoted to th...Hey Amanda! Chapter 3 in the book is devoted to the New Runner. You're not a new runner, just new to marathons. They recommend new runners have a strong base before starting the program. Sounds like you'll be fine with the program.RunnerDudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15209079063314051451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6007050355748263232.post-84042333181028768642009-05-30T15:15:52.745-04:002009-05-30T15:15:52.745-04:00Hey Heather! We'll have to keep each other posted ...Hey Heather! We'll have to keep each other posted on our progress with the program. I'm looking forward to getting started. I ran Baltimore a few years back. Great race!RunnerDudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15209079063314051451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6007050355748263232.post-45854315281826129552009-05-30T15:14:39.552-04:002009-05-30T15:14:39.552-04:00Hey Dena!According to the book, it wants you to ch...Hey Dena!According to the book, it wants you to choose cross-training activitite that "complement your running." What that means is you need some good cardio but that gives your runnig muscles a break.It also says these are non-weigt-bearing activities. So, sounds like trail running wouldn't count. You could probably still do your strenght training and your yoga but it wouldn't count as your cross-training. You could do somthing like 30-45 minutes of the elliptical and then do some strenght training. Hope this helps. When you get the book it will explain it better.RunnerDudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15209079063314051451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6007050355748263232.post-38540026610262295442009-05-30T14:52:24.092-04:002009-05-30T14:52:24.092-04:00I read "Run Less, Run Faster" over the winter and ...I read "Run Less, Run Faster" over the winter and couldn't wait for spring to start the FIRST program. I'm 2 weeks into it now and am diggin' it so far. It's definitely challenging, but the 3 days of running per week are good for my 47-year-old body. <br /><br />I've blogged about 2 of my workouts so far. (Links below). RunnerDude, how about you blog yours too? It would be fun to compare our notes along the way.<br /><br />http://www.turtlesagainstcancer.com/2009/05/the-first-first-run/ <br /><br />and <br /><br />http://www.turtlesagainstcancer.com/2009/05/first-speed-session/ (I will say my second speed session was a breeze compared to the first one!)DP_Turtlehttp://www.turtlesagainstcancer.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6007050355748263232.post-20119536393990476982009-05-30T13:39:51.629-04:002009-05-30T13:39:51.629-04:00I have only run a few halfs so far, but am going t...I have only run a few halfs so far, but am going to be running my first full in November and am still looking at different plans. I like running fewer days a week, I feel like I run a much higher risk of getting injured if I'm running 5 or more days a week. I am definitely going to get this book! Do you think it would be an appropriate way to train for my first marathon?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16946765294977587434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6007050355748263232.post-69281885097077273512009-05-30T13:29:26.764-04:002009-05-30T13:29:26.764-04:00I had heard so much about the FIRST program that I...I had heard so much about the FIRST program that I did buy this book. I'm about to start this plan in two weeks, I'm trying to BQ at the Baltimore marathon in October. I really hope to get the same results I've heard from everyone else!Relentless Forward Commotionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10994114843561430941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6007050355748263232.post-4455428943188605702009-05-30T13:28:49.475-04:002009-05-30T13:28:49.475-04:00Thanks for blogging about this, Thad. I feel more ...Thanks for blogging about this, Thad. I feel more confident in the plan knowing you may use it. I'm going to borrow the book from a friend this weekend. I have some questions on the cross-training days. For example, is a trail run allowed? I'd really hate to give up my trail runs but they wouldn't meet the threshold for any of the 3 main runs. Also, must cross-training days still be aerobic or does strength training and/or yoga count?Denahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13485417565774708820noreply@blogger.com